I learn the hard way, especially when five month old kitten is very strong and as big looks about eight months in comparison to when my last little girly girly kitty was nine months. Ouch. Those boy-toy farm kitties sure know how to use their hind legs! Well, that will teach Baloo to play with my bath water while I'm still in it. ::smirk:: And it will teach me to trim his claws before his next bath.